<Gojoe> so. bored.
<Haragorn_> Take your turn in Civ
<Haragorn_> If you have any questions, ask
<Gojoe> oh whoops
<Gojoe> sorry I didnt see your last post in the game
<Gojoe> I dont get it
<Gojoe> I dont know what any of the dots or symbols mean
<Gojoe> am i yellow?
<Haragorn_> There are two general types of units
<Haragorn_> Military and civilian
<Haragorn_> Civilians are marked by triangles
<Haragorn_> military units are either circles or sheilds, depending on whether they're garrisoned
<Haragorn_> there are two units right now
<Haragorn_> the flag in a triangle is a settler
<Haragorn_> it can found a city
<Haragorn_> the other unit, the circle with an axe, is a warrior
<Gojoe> the axe is my attacker?
<Gojoe> how do I make more units?
<Haragorn_> with a city
<Gojoe> found a town?
<Haragorn_> the dots on the map are resources
<Haragorn_> yellow is money, green is food, orange is production
<Haragorn_> there's also blue for science and purple for color, but not right now
<Gojoe> whta does production do?
<Haragorn_> that is how much work gets done per turn
<Gojoe> make units?
<Haragorn_> each city has a certain number of citizens
<Gojoe> so I want to build my first city on a hex that has lots of dots on it
<Haragorn_> the number increases from food
<Haragorn_> yes, probably
<Gojoe> so for instance, I would want to move to the hex that has my attacker in it
<Gojoe> and found my city there
<Gojoe> or actually
<Gojoe> one to the west
<Gojoe> so I get a production resource
<Gojoe> I dont know how important each resource is
<Haragorn_> that hex would be worked for free, but any other hex that you want to use would require a citizen
<Haragorn_> maybe you should let someone else go first
<Haragorn_> you start off with the spaces directly adjoining your city belonging to you
<Haragorn_> you can gradually get more
<Gojoe> are black hexes just covered by fog of war?
<Gojoe> what re the options I can do with those two units?
<Gojoe> I assume I can either move
<Gojoe> or build a city
<Gojoe> with my citizen
<Haragorn_> gotta fire up the game, then I can post screenshots
<Haragorn_> http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9539 ... 231428.jpg
<Haragorn_> The white space is where the settler could move this turn
<Haragorn_> his other options are to build a city where he is, or do nothing
<Haragorn_> http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5910 ... 231539.jpg
<Haragorn_> That's the stuff for that warrior
<Haragorn_> You can tell him to automatically explore, if you want
<Haragorn_> or do nothing, of course
<Gojoe> what I want to do I think
<Gojoe> build a town where my citizen is
<Gojoe> and move my warrior one space to the west
<Haragorn_> now there's more stuff you need to do
<Haragorn_> Choose production and technology
<Haragorn_> http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7527 ... 231917.jpg
<Haragorn_> You can start building any of those things, except a new settler
<Gojoe> I will make a scout
<Haragorn_> http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/513/ ... 232057.jpg
<Haragorn_> You need to choose which technology you will start to research
<Haragorn_> The symbols tell you what your different advisors reccommend
<Haragorn_> shield is military, triangle is scientific, and diamond is economic
<Haragorn_> the symbols in a row tell you what you are then able to produce
<Haragorn_> I can give you more information on any technology
<Gojoe> What does animal husbandry do?
<Haragorn_> Allows workers to construct pastures on COWS and SHEEP (which you currently have none of)
<Haragorn_> also reveals HORSES, which are used for mounted units
<Gojoe> how do you get cows and sheep?
<Gojoe> and what are they used for?
<Haragorn_> see the bigger symbols on the map?
<Haragorn_> those are resources
<Gojoe> the big circles?
<Gojoe> oh right
<Gojoe> what is mine?
<Gojoe> a backpack?
<Gojoe> i have 2 backpacks?
<Haragorn_> and you can't access them right now
<Gojoe> used for cooking i assume
<Haragorn_> they can be
<Haragorn_> they also improve happiness
<Haragorn_> there are two types of resource: strategic, and luxury
<Haragorn_> strategic are things like horses and iron
<Haragorn_> they're needed to build certain units
<Haragorn_> luxury resources make your people happier
<Gojoe> why do I want that?
<Haragorn_> they can also be traded to other empires
<Gojoe> (them to be happy I mean)
<Haragorn_> happier people enter a golden age quicker
<Haragorn_> in a golden age, you have better productivity and money
<Haragorn_> also, if you have negative happiness, units don't fight as well
<Gojoe> how do I get horses?
<Haragorn_> construct a pasture on a tile with horses
<Gojoe> do i find them like the sheep?
<Haragorn_> you can't see horses right now
<Haragorn_> but when you have Animal Husbandry, yes
<Gojoe> I will do animal husbandry
<Gojoe> I will trust my advisors
<Haragorn_> next turn
<Gojoe> I will leave it to you to update?
<Gojoe> how would I normally update?
<Gojoe> just pm you?
<Haragorn_> just post what you want to do
<Haragorn_> or tell me here
<Gojoe> now that my turn is over
<Gojoe> was my move okay?
<Haragorn_> http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5104 ... 233203.jpg
<Haragorn_> next turn
<Haragorn_> your warrior needs orders
<Haragorn_> just so you know, there are benefits to early exploration
<Gojoe> what are the options?
<Haragorn_> same as before
<Gojoe> oh he can move again you mean
<Gojoe> is it not someone elses turn?
<Gojoe> I assume their are baddies around in the black somewhere?
<Haragorn_> those happened automatically
<Haragorn_> well, not necessarily baddies
<Haragorn_> you can cooperate with them
<Gojoe> what does the 1 by me mean?
<Gojoe> why didnt it go to someone else's turn?
<Haragorn_> ignore it
<Haragorn_> that's just because I have to right click to show where it can move
<Haragorn_> so it says that I can get there in 1 turn
<Gojoe> Do I always get to move warriors twice?
<Haragorn_> it's not twice
<Haragorn_> it's a new turn
<Haragorn_> this is the second turn
<Gojoe> did anyone else get a first turn?
<Haragorn_> if you mean two tiles, it depends
<Haragorn_> nobody else in the thread
<Gojoe> why not?
<Haragorn_> there aren't any other cities yet
<Gojoe> I have to discover them?
<Haragorn_> whenever you make a new settler, somebody else will get to start playing
<Haragorn_> for the first little bit, though, it'll just be you
<Gojoe> do mountains impede my movement speed?
<Haragorn_> you can't cross mountains
<Wrydryn> Don't cross the plasma streams
<Gojoe> and as a bit of advice, is it bad to stray from my city?
<Gojoe> i mean he is my only defence atm
<Haragorn_> not really
<Haragorn_> there are barbarians
<Haragorn_> but your city can shoot at them
<Gojoe> ill go south west 2 hexes
<Haragorn_> you can't
<Haragorn_> that one is just sand
<Haragorn_> you can go SW one hex
<Gojoe> can I go south 2?
<Gojoe> its white
<Gojoe> into that forest
<Gojoe> that has 2 green resources on it
<Haragorn_> okay, next turn
<Gojoe> how do I make settlers?
<Gojoe> it was greyed out
<Haragorn_> you need at least 2 citizens
<Gojoe> ill make that a priority
<Haragorn_> http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/655/ ... 234037.jpg
<Gojoe> wanna help me Wrydryn ?
<Wrydryn> which one?
<Haragorn_> Civ V
<Haragorn_> new turn
<Wrydryn> How can I help?
<Gojoe> I dunno
<Gojoe> im not actually playing
<Gojoe> well kinda
<Gojoe> im telling Haragorn_ what I want to do
<Gojoe> and he does it and sends me screen shots
<Gojoe> offer me tatical advice i guess
<Haragorn_> this thread
<Gojoe> you see that hex to the east of me that has that circle in it
<Gojoe> what what resource is that circle?
<Haragorn_> the one with 1 food 2 production 1 gold?
<Haragorn_> that's sheep
<Gojoe> if I walk into that hex do I get a sheep?
* Gojoe likes sheep
<Haragorn_> you get resources by working them with a city
<Gojoe> i have to get a builder man down there?
<Gojoe> how do i do this thing?
<Gojoe> time out
<Haragorn_> see the orange border around your city?
<Gojoe> just so I am sure
<Gojoe> next turn or something
<Gojoe> I get a scout
<Gojoe> and I can send him all over
<Gojoe> then once he is made
<Haragorn_> in 2 turns
<Gojoe> i can make something else
<Gojoe> like some type of worker
<Gojoe> that can expand my city
<Haragorn_> workers are civilians that improve tiles
<Haragorn_> they don't expand your city
<Gojoe> what is the point of sending my warrior all over?
<Haragorn_> you can see more of the map
<Gojoe> am i picking up the resources i step on?
<Haragorn_> you can discover ruins that give you cool stuff
<Gojoe> and you see those smaller looking mountains
<Gojoe> can i cross them?
<Haragorn_> those are hills
<Gojoe> this changes everything
<Gojoe> ill move two to the west
<Gojoe> bye sheep
<Haragorn_> Ruins discovered!
<Gojoe> what does this do
<Haragorn_> when you enter them, you get something
<Haragorn_> could be a free technology
<Wrydryn> Don't do it
<Haragorn_> could be better weapons for your unit
<Wrydryn> It's a trap
<Haragorn_> could be new citizens
<Wrydryn> citizens hiding in the ruins?
<Gojoe> could it be a bad thing?
<Haragorn_> http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/317/ ... 234855.jpg
<Haragorn_> I suggest you move 1 space west
<Haragorn_> to get the goodies from the ruins
<Gojoe> ill do it
<Gojoe> just out of curiosity, do you know where everythign is? or are you as surprised as we are?
<Haragorn_> I'm as surprised as you are
<Haragorn_> http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7581 ... 235012.jpg
<Haragorn_> that's what the ruins did for you
<Haragorn_> that tile to the west has an encampment
<Haragorn_> if you capture it, you get money
<Gojoe> But I could die
<Gojoe> (I assume)
<Haragorn_> you could
<Haragorn_> but you can heal
<Haragorn_> barbarians can't
<Gojoe> oh, do I have a scout yet?
<Haragorn_> not yet
<Haragorn_> http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5/ss ... 235215.jpg
<Haragorn_> those two tiles in the middle of nowhere are encampments
<Haragorn_> okay, next turn
<Haragorn_> your scout is ready
<Haragorn_> and you can choose a new production
<Haragorn_> http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6023/s ... 235337.jpg
<Gojoe> can i have a new screen shot?
<Gojoe> what do workers do?
<Haragorn_> workers improve tiles
<Haragorn_> so they give better stuff
<Gojoe> can them make sheep appear?
<Haragorn_> ie more food or something
<Gojoe> so no matter what I do
<Gojoe> I can not have sheep
<Gojoe> or horses
<Gojoe> so animal husbandry was wasted >.>
<Haragorn_> you might have horses
<Haragorn_> you can't see them yet
<Gojoe> how do I get to see them?
<Gojoe> these magical horses
<Haragorn_> finish animal husbandry
<Gojoe> how do I do that?
<Haragorn_> you will
<Haragorn_> in 2 turns
<Gojoe> just wait? Is it being built now?
<Gojoe> so be honest
<Haragorn_> it's being researched
<Gojoe> it was pretty useless to choose animal husbandry huh
<Haragorn_> each technology leads to others
<Gojoe> oh okay
<Gojoe> so this turn, I need to choose a new person to build
<Gojoe> and move warrior and scout
<Gojoe> is that correct?
<Haragorn_> or a building
<Gojoe> what does a monument do?
<Gojoe> are scouts civilians?
<Haragorn_> scouts are military
<Haragorn_> monuments are -1 gold +2 culture
<Gojoe> workers are civies?
<Gojoe> does culture help me go to the next age?
<Haragorn_> culture lets you get new social policies
<Haragorn_> and expand your territory
<Gojoe> that means I could keep expanding until I have sheep?
<Gojoe> okay I will make a worker
<Gojoe> move scout as far north as i can
<Gojoe> and i lost my screenshot of where my barb can move
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<Gojoe> do you think my single warrior could win against those barbs?
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<Haragorn_> I don't know
<Gojoe> ill try it
<Haragorn_> you might have to attack, and then heal, and then attack
<Gojoe> ill go north west with my warrior
<Haragorn_> http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/989/ ... 005017.jpg
<Haragorn_> http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/6114 ... 005033.jpg
<Gojoe> we will have to pick this up when I get home